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Wednesday, April 12, 2006

So... Why did we go to war?

A few short years ago, a friend of mine was practically beaming about how occupying and rebuilding Iraq would pay for itself, how the US would reap enormous wealth from the influx of Iraqi oil, and that military spending would actually *strengthen* the American economy -- like the massive military expenditures during the Reagan Years! (Can you say "trickle-down theory"?)

I let him finish gushing about Ronnie Raygun, paused, then said, "Okay, sooooo.... war is the answer."

That kind of took the wind out of his sails.

What I didn't say (but in retrospect really wish I had) was, "Therefore, the most important reason to wage a war in which hundreds to thousands of our American troops will be sent to a foreign land to fight and die ...ISN'T to defend our country, ISN'T to protect our liberty, and ISN'T to promote democracy ...it's to MAKE SOME MONEY?!?"

Alright, so let's accept the capitalist-pig view that war is all about feeding the money machine. How close (or how far) are we to breaking even on money spent on Iraq? How much is the federal deficit now? How much have gasoline prices changed, *and in what direction*? How much has consumer confidence and employee satisfaction improved (or worsened)?

Also, what of non-economic matters? How much safer (or more frightened) do Americans feel about another attempted terrorist attack on US soil? How (un)successful has the "coalition of the willing" been in establishing peace and starting a new democracy in Iraq? How much (or how little) respect does the coaltion, specifically the US, have from the other nations of the world?

What of the veterans who return home (if they ever do -- for many US troops, tours of duty keep getting extended indefinitely)? If you develop PTSD and have screaming nightmares whenever you try to sleep, how much money is that worth? Or if you jump whenever a car backfires or a kid sets off a firecracker within earshot? Or if your mind keeps replaying the memory of a fellow soldier -- maybe a close buddy -- being shot in the head or blown to bloody bits? What amount of value, what price tag, can you possibly assign to that?

8 Comments:

  • At 4/12/2006 2:19 PM, Blogger Joe said…

    "Alright, so let's accept the capitalist-pig view that war is all about feeding the money machine."

    I think that you are the one that made this supposition and then you say let's accept it. To make this sort of argument work, you must take someone else's point of view and argue against it.

    Why did we go to war? Perhaps it was for the reasons that the President stated and that Congress (both parties) agreed with.

     
  • At 4/12/2006 3:34 PM, Blogger Thinker said…

    Strange, I thought it had been pointed out time and again that is NOT why we went to war. That we had been lied to so we could go to war. Just because nobody in the governemnt ever came right out and said it was about money, doesn't mean it wasn't. I have heard about how war is soooo great for the economy since I was just a little punk. I'm asking, how?

     
  • At 4/12/2006 8:21 PM, Blogger Joe said…

    Pointed out by who? You point it out and then say, "hasn't it been pointed out"? Now, tell me who lied.

     
  • At 4/12/2006 11:39 PM, Blogger Thinker said…

    Bush, Cheney, the CIA under orders. There has been plenty of evidence of this.

     
  • At 4/13/2006 9:24 AM, Blogger Joe said…

    I don't think so. I think they were just wrong. One thing that both the right and the left have learned.....call someone a name (liar) loud and long enough, and it will eventually stick.

     
  • At 4/14/2006 2:09 PM, Blogger Thinker said…

    I dunno, there has been a lot of evidence pointing to the fact that Bush new well ahead of time that there were no WMDs. And the weapons inspectors were in Iraq and destroying contraband, as ordered, up until they were ordered out by BUSH so he could invade.

     
  • At 4/18/2006 11:06 AM, Blogger Joe said…

    I don't know that there is any such evidence. There is speculation by those who would like to discredit Bush. So Bush and his "cronies" were the only ones privy to this imformation? Were the Dems all duped?

     
  • At 7/28/2006 8:30 PM, Anonymous Anonymous said…

    Read what this Lt. Colonel had to say about misinformation and who created the bureau to handle it.

    [url]http://dir.salon.com/story/opinion/feature/2004/03/10/osp_moveon/index.html[/url]

     

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